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Trump Fires Comey: Why Now?
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2017, 05:10:51 PM »
Trump says there is nothing to the Russia investigation, yet he fired the FBI Director because of it and he had his lawyers draw up a letter to Congress describing his business dealings there. If there is nothing to it, why is he freaking out about it? While it's true that Trump displays a toxic case of emotional disturbance, his angst over this issue seems to have made him even more unhinged. Why?

Another Scenario:

Article I of the Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

President Donald J. Trump obstructed justice in an attempt to interfere with and undermine an investigation into the attempt of the Russian government to influence the 2016 US presidential election and any potential collusion between members of the Donald J. Trump campaign and the Russian government. By demanding the personal loyalty of the Director of the FBI in violation of his sworn duty to impartially uphold the rule of law and the Constitution of the United States and firing him for his refusal to be coopted, Donald J. Trump has violated the responsibilities of his office and undermined the rule of law.  


Right Turn Opinion
Clapper’s remarks constitute the third strike for Trump
By Jennifer Rubin
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/05/12/clappers-remarks-constitute-the-third-strike-for-trump/?utm_term=.64eaf05207cd
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Strike one was the Lester Holt interview in which President Trump alleged (confessed?) that he fired former FBI director James B. Comey with the Russia investigation in mind and asked about his own legal status while discussing Comey’s job with him. Then came the tweet in which the president threatened the former FBI director and suggested conversations were being recorded. That was strike two.

Now we have former director of national intelligence James Clapper telling NBC’s Andrea Mitchell in an interview that he never exonerated Trump of collusion, as Trump claimed.

...There are two problems coming together at once. First, the president is blabbing about actions (real or not) that would constitute abuse of power, if not obstruction of justice. It is coming from his mouth. He does not even have the excuse of “fake news.” Second, because the Comey firing sent events spinning out of control, the president now appears to be irrational, if not ill. No one in control of his emotions or taking counsel from sober advisers would behave as he is.

...There are options here, including commencement of bipartisan impeachment hearings, legislation passed by a veto-proof majority to enlist an independent prosecutor and/or a decision that, aside from national security matters, the Congress will devote itself full-time to the resolution of this entire matter over the next few weeks. Vice President Pence, who has been repeatedly lied to in service of actions to deceive the public, needs to remember he serves the country, not the president.

Action needs to be taken before too much damage is done to the republic. The GOP is lost, but the country can be protected.


Jennifer Rubin is a Republican and Conservative columnist for the Washington Post. Most prominent Republican columnists from the National Review to the New York Times were critical of Trump from the beginning of the primary campaign. If it's possible, she is more outraged than I am at his behavior, or, more likely, she is just better at expressing it.
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Trump Fires Comey: Why Now?
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2017, 06:59:00 PM »
Another Conservative and "former" Republican, Max Boot, has an equally harsh view of the present situation.

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If the controversy over the firing of James Comey, the F.B.I. director, has done anything, it has confirmed my decision on Nov. 9 to leave the Republican Party after a lifetime as a loyal member.

The Republican Party was once the party of small government, free trade, traditional values, principled foreign policy leadership and, most important of all, adherence to the Constitution. Republicans spent decades fulminating against activist judges like Earl Warren and activist politicians like Barack Obama, claiming they were undermining the founders’ vision of limited government.

And then, the party sold its soul to the soulless charlatan who now occupies the Oval Office and makes a mockery of every one of the party’s principles.

...Like other conservatives, I care about tax cuts and military spending increases. But I care even more about the rule of law — the only thing that prevents our country from going the way of Venezuela, Russia or Zimbabwe.

In office less than four months, Mr. Trump has already undermined the rule of law in myriad small ways. He allowed his daughter and son-in-law to work in the White House in arguable violation of an anti-nepotism statute. He did not divest himself of his business holdings and did not release his tax returns. His sons have continued pursuing deals with jillionaires closely linked to unsavory foreign regimes. He and his daughter have accepted valuable trademark protections from China. His son-in-law’s family sought to trade on their connections to sell American citizenship to rich Chinese.

But all of that is inconsequential compared with the flagrant assault on the rule of law represented by the firing of the F.B.I. director.

...Mr. Trump himself now links his decision to fire Mr. Comey to his conviction that “this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story.” The president had previously tried to win from Mr. Comey a pledge of loyalty and assurances that he was not a target of the investigation — both actions that are, in and of themselves, unethical and improper. When Mr. Comey wouldn’t comply, he was canned.

While the president has the authority to fire the F.B.I. director, to do so under these circumstances and for these reasons is a gross violation of the trust citizens place in the president to ensure that the laws “be faithfully executed.” If this is not a prima facie case of obstruction of justice — an impeachable offense — it’s hard to know what is.

...The Republican leaders in both the House and the Senate supported Mr. Comey’s shameful dismissal.

If this Republican stonewall holds, Mr. Trump may get away with the most egregious abuse of presidential power since Richard Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre in 1973.

...Are there even three principled Republicans left who will put their devotion to the Republic above their fealty to the Republican Party?

I fear the answer to that question.


When Will Republicans Stand Up to Trump?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/opinion/when-will-republicans-stand-up-to-trump.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region
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Trump Fires Comey: Why Now?
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2017, 09:49:57 AM »
I was referring to single words and memes/pictures and going playground argument-style with "libtards" and "butt hurt". This country need conservative leadership and I hope the RNC national meetings http://nevadagop.org/event/republican-national-committee-2017-spring-meeting/ can bring out some real leadership.

Speaker Ryan is playing politics being the party in control of all Executive and Legislative, and thats what should be done. The problem is, Donald Trump is being this usual selfish self and putting everyone else aside. And the Speaker has done along with it to pass bills and in the process, lost his spine. He need to lead the movement for impeachment for, not only our party, but for our country's sake.

I'm almost at the point of swaying libertarian out of protest for real conservative leadership and governance.

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Re: Trump Fires Comey: Why Now?
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2017, 02:06:31 PM »
There have been plenty of calls for Trump to be impeached. Most of them can be ignored. This one caught my attention.

Lawrence Tribe is not just another politician, commentator, or anti-Trump lefty. He is a hugely respected legal scholar/law professor at Harvard and someone not prone to hysterics or legal excesses.

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Even without getting to the bottom of what Trump dismissed as ďthis Russia thing,Ē impeachable offenses could theoretically have been charged from the outset of this presidency. One important example is Trumpís brazen defiance of the foreign emoluments clause, which is designed to prevent foreign powers from pressuring U.S. officials to stray from undivided loyalty to the United States. Political reality made impeachment and removal on that and other grounds seem premature.

No longer. To wait for the results of the multiple investigations underway is to risk tying our nationís fate to the whims of an authoritarian leader.
Trump must be impeached. Hereís why.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-must-be-impeached-heres-why/2017/05/13/82ce2ea4-374d-11e7-b4ee-434b6d506b37_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-c%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.d49e951d744a
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Re: Trump Fires Comey: Why Now?
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2017, 06:14:28 PM »
This is a smoking gun. Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice. The cowardly Republicans will roll over and play dead, but the grounds for impeachment are clear and beyond question. Democrats MUST take back the House in 2018 or this corrupt idiot will continue to dishonor his office and undermine the Constitution and the security of the United States.

Now we know why Trump was so agitated at Comey. He couldn't "convince" him to back off the Russia investigation. Give us the tape of THAT conversation.

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President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trumpís former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting.

ďI hope you can let this go,Ē the president told Mr. Comey, according to the memo.

The existence of Mr. Trumpís request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the Justice Department and F.B.I. investigation into links between Mr. Trumpís associates and Russia.

Mr. Comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after Mr. Flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo. The memo was part of a paper trail Mr. Comey created documenting what he perceived as the presidentís improper efforts to influence a continuing investigation. An F.B.I. agentís contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations.

Mr. Comey shared the existence of the memo with senior F.B.I. officials and close associates. The New York Times has not viewed a copy of the memo, which is unclassified, but one of Mr. Comeyís associates read parts of the memo to a Times reporter.

Comey Memo Says Trump Asked Him to End Flynn Investigation
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/us/politics/james-comey-trump-flynn-russia-investigation.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
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Re: Trump Fires Comey: Why Now?
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2017, 07:46:11 PM »

It's always the coverup, not the crime that leads to impeachment.
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Re: Trump Fires Comey: Why Now?
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2017, 07:29:52 PM »
OK, Rosenstein knew Comey was going to be fired BEFORE he wrote his memo. That explains why it was viewed as substandard work. No legal research needed.

Why did White House officials like Kellyanne Conway, Sean Spicer, and the Vice President subsequently lie about it. Then, why did the president fess up in an interview with the "dishonest" meda and confirm that his spokespeople are liars?

Why should anybody believe anything any of them say ever again? Of course, it's not Trump's fault. It's the persecuting media's fault. The New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal (excluding the editorial page, of course), CNN, MSNBC, Reuters, Associated Press, CBS, NBC, ABC, BBC...you know all the fake news sources.

Trump is not behaving sanely and there is no way to spin this any other way. Stupid or nefarious? How about mentally disturbed. 

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein knew before he wrote his controversial memo that Comey would be fired
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/deputy-attorney-general-rod-rosenstein-will-brief-the-full-senate-in-a-closed-session/2017/05/18/41de8548-3bd4-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.88a55606103f
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Re: Trump Fires Comey: Why Now?
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2017, 06:21:59 AM »
I'm no Trump fan, but this whole thing is another fine example why nothing moves forward in Washington. Everyone's always on the attack trying to pull someone else down. Get your claws in something and never let go. Bunch of losers.

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Re: Trump Fires Comey: Why Now?
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2017, 08:21:20 PM »
Trump reportedly told the Russians, get that...THE RUSSIANS, during their Oval Office visit, that Comey was a "nut job" and that firing him "took the pressure off." BTW, he added "I am not under investigation."

Hmmmm...I don't know about you Trumpsters out there, but I believe most people would think: Trump fired Comey to stop the investigation into collusion with the Russians. The next thought they would have: Is he really that stupid?
Trump Told Russians That Firing ĎNut Jobí Comey Eased Pressure From Investigation
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

The real blockbuster of the day, however:
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The law enforcement investigation into possible coordination between Russia and the Trump campaign has identified a current White House official as a significant person of interest, according to people familiar with the matter, who would not further identify the official.

White House adviser close to Trump is a person of interest in Russia probe
Investigation into Russian meddling reaches highest level of government

https://www.washingtonpost.com/?reload=true

Trump admits a coverup attempt and the FBI finds a likely Russian collaborator in the White House. Nothing to see here. Git along little dogies. Head 'em up, move 'em out.

Yeah, like Trump told Comey: Maybe we need to lock up a few of these reporters. That would stop the leaks
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Re: Trump Fires Comey: Why Now?
« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2017, 09:01:18 PM »
Comey's written statement has been published in the NY Times. It confirms and clarifies much of what has been published since his dismissal. Most Republicans will say "so what" and most Dems will say it sounds like "obstruction of justice." The DNI refused to confirm or deny yesterday's story that Trump asked him to intervene with Comey to stop the Flynn investigation. A similar effort by Nixon was a trigger for impeachment. But the request was on tape and came after nearly a year of investigations.

I think Trump is guilty of multiple illicit conflicts of interest and violation of the Emoluments Clause, so his obstruction of justice is only one more article to add to the list. Some day we will learn that the Special Counsel has convened a grand jury to investigate all of this. It is very clear that Trump has attempted to impede the Russia investigation, but the proof is necessary before any action is taken and, after all, it will be a political decision to act.  Comey will begin to provide official proof with his testimony. Republicans were very slow to come around on Nixon too. As John Dean famously said: "There is a cancer on the presidency" and it destroys slowly and inexorably. We are watching it unfold before our eyes.

If Trump had a lawyer he would listen to, he would be told to open his administration to a full investigation. Reagan survived Iran-Contra because he had the wisdom to do so. Trump's attempts to impede the investigation will eventually destroy his administration, such as it is. Whether it is because of coordination with the Russians or his stupidity in obstruction remains to be seen. 

Read James Comeyís Prepared Remarks for Testimony
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/07/us/politics/document-Comey-Prepared-Remarks-Testimony.html
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Re: Trump Fires Comey: Why Now?
« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2017, 06:37:59 PM »
The parallels between the way Trump operates and Putin operates are strikingly similar as described in this quote:

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As Stephen Burbank, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Law School, put it to me: ďTrumpís business is infecting the people around him. To show loyalty you have to engage in the corrupt or mendacious behavior he engages in. So heís a form of contagion ó and Comey did not want the investigation infected.Ē
James Comey Moves the Pendulum
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/09/opinion/james-comey-senate-testimony-donald-trump.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-3&action=click&contentCollection=Opinion&region=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article

This is precisely the modus operandi in Putin's Russia. There it is writ large as the regime's policy to force compliance from every major business entity in the country.

I described this previously:

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In Russia all businessmen are complicit in the violation of the law as a condition for permission to operate. That is a governing as well as a self-enrichment strategy that Trump would probably appreciate if he understood it. It accords the Putin government a hold over every source of wealth and independence in the nation. Criminal prosecution is an ever present possibility for those who get out of line. Using the law as a weapon by such means is a cynical, autocratic abuse of the entire concept of the rule of law. It creates, in a real sense, a lawless environment where the naked power of a popular president can be utilized at any time to prosecute anyone with economic independence who does not toe the line set by the  government of Vladimir Putin.
Moral Equivalence: Trump, Putin, and the Rule of Law
http://martinsvillechat.com/index.php?topic=307.0

As I suggested in my previous post, Trump may not consciously understand the similarity, but he instinctively reacts positively to Putin because his methodology reflects his own way of operating. Co-opting Comey was Trump's goal and when that did not prove successful, he fired him.

I will say again that it is a prima facie case of obstruction of justice. But there is more here to be mined. Trump's implicit connection of Comey's job and compliance with the suppression of the Flynn investigation suggests political bribery. The former mayor of Chicago is in jail for an explicit offer of a job for money. Trump was less blatant, but you have to be blind not to understand the intent.

Character is destiny. You and I and the nation are being sucked into this man's ethical black hole. 

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On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heartís desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and a complete narcissistic moron.
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