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« on: April 11, 2017, 08:54:37 AM »
All politics is local, as the saying goes. And the Governor has more to do with our day-to-day lives than the President or Congress. We have 3 candidates in the Republican primary race, 2 Democrats, and 1 Libertarian. And yes, we have a 3rd party on the ballot and needs more attention and analysis than our broken 2-party system. It was a close race in 2013 with Ken Cuccinelli getting 45% to Terry McAuliffes 47%.

Republicans

Senator Frank Wagner (Virginia Beach)
State Senator from Virginias 7th District; NAVY veteran and small-business owner.

Ed Gillespie (Mclean; DC)
Former Chairman of the Republican National Committee. A beltway consultant and lobbyist who has the lead in the party and statewide polls. He has a considerable fundraising and cash-on-hand lead on the other 2 candidates.

Corey Stewart (Prince William County)
4th term Chairman of the Prince William County Board of Supervisors. Lawyer and former Chairman of Trump for Virginia.

Democrats

Ralph Northam (Norfolk; Richmond)
Current Lieutenant Governor of Virginia and former State Senator from the 6th District. Army veteran and doctor. Gigantic fundraising and cash-on-hand in the Democratic primary.

Tom Perriello (Charlottesville)
Newest candidate in the race and former 5th District Congressional Represtative (thats us here in Martinsville/Henry County).

Libertarian

Cliff Hyra (Reston)
The candidate from the largest 3rd party in Virginia. A lawyer in intellectual property from up north. He has a fundraising lag being younger and not having much, if any, name recognition in Virginia. Let see if he can match or beat Robert Sarvis's 6.5% effort for the Libertarians in 2013.


This is race America is watching. We are 1 of 2 states (New Jersey) with a Governors race this year, and by far the most interesting and impactful. In Virginia, no Governor can run in succesive terms so McAuliffe is obviously out.  I want to see what you guys think on this race and the candidates. I have a candidate I am firmly in support of but I will cast my "endorsement" after some discussion! Jump in fellas!
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2017, 11:47:18 PM »
I'm glad you mentioned Cliff. He will likely take the official Libertarian nomination May 6. Petitions are being circulated for ballot access now. If anyone wants to meet me to sign I'll be glad to. Just PM me a time and location. I haven't met him yet and don't know a lot about him. I'm sure he will come to Martinsville at some point and I'll try to give some advanced notice on this.

It's going to come down to Perriello, Gillespie, and Hyra.

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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2017, 11:58:53 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2017, 09:57:24 AM »
Its going to be a VERY interesting race. Northam is the favorite but Tom is chasing him down quite quickly.

I support Sen. Frank Wagner. He is the only real Virginian and real conservative statesman in the Republican ticket. Unfortunately he doesnt have the name recognition or the big money. He is my guy for mang reasons, but look at his record in the Senate. Hes worked in a bipartisan manner while staying true his principles.

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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2017, 05:49:36 PM »
Quote from: RealConservative;2045
Its going to be a VERY interesting race. Northam is the favorite but Tom is chasing him down quite quickly.

I support Sen. Frank Wagner. He is the only real Virginian and real conservative statesman in the Republican ticket. Unfortunately he doesnt have the name recognition or the big money. He is my guy for mang reasons, but look at his record in the Senate. Hes worked in a bipartisan manner while staying true his principles.


What if Gillespie gets the nomination?

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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2017, 06:24:38 PM »
Hot off the press...

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[FONT="]Former Rep. Tom Perriello's upstart campaign has edged ahead of Lt. Gov. Ralph S. Northam about two months ahead of the Democratic primary for governor and either Democrat tops GOP front-runner Ed Gillespie by double-digits in a new survey by Quinnipiac University. More than half of the voters remain undecided ahead of each party's June 13 primary and most voters do not know enough about the candidates to form an opinion. In the Democratic primary, Perriello,
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[FONT="]the former 5th District congressman, received 25 percent to Northam's 20 percent, with 51 percent undecided.[/FONT]
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2017, 09:10:24 PM »
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Hot off the press...


I saw that bill. I think perriello is going to get the nomination. 51% undecided is a LOT of unknown though.

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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2017, 10:08:26 AM »
If Ed gets it I think the Mansion stays blue. He is the reason the word "lobbyist" is dirty. He's a DC insider and his involvement with Enron makes him dirty goods. I think he's just an opportunist and I stand by Senator Wagner.

And Bill wow thats a lot! After 2016, and even especially before that I don't trust polls but this is a Virginia specific one. I think if Perriello get the nomination he loses the general race. He just doesn't have the appeal for the average joe and voter.

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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2017, 12:21:45 PM »
Turnout, turnout, turnout. Opinion polls don't matter if a minority of voters show up on election day. Primaries are even more problematic with an even smaller turnout. The Quinnipiac poll Bill cited shows 51% undecided in both the Democratic and Republican races. The June 13th primary is not that far away and still more than half the voters in both major parties are undecided. Still, you have to think that Gillespie with 28% is in a strong position v. Stewart with 12% and Wagner with 7%. Bernie Sanders' endorsement of Perriello is apparently having some effect. A Gillespie v. Perriello race would be an interesting generational, outsider v. insider, reformer v. lobbyist contest. A Perriello win would add more fire to the Democratic left that is currently leading the "Resistance" to Trump. A Gillespie win would signal that the state is OK with the status quo ante, id.est., pre-Trump Virginia. You could fly a fleet of B-52's through the gap that separates these two.
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2017, 01:01:51 PM »
You are right, Mr. Solon. Its all about turnout and GOTV. In Virginia primary races you will see groups of voters to go to vote in the opposing party's ballot to help elect the "weaker" candidate for the general election. You're breakdown is good. I think Bernie should have kept himself out of Virginia for his socialist revolution, and its sad to see Senator Wagner behind so much, not just on polling but also money. Ralph is running as the "anti-Trump" candidate; I've got addresses in 2 different Virginia counties and I've seen his latest mailers from a neighbor. Its a good strategy, and it seems like for the Democrats coming down to outsider v. insider and "resistance" as you said.

Ed Gillespie was and is going to be hard to outraise, as a primary and potential general election candidate. My skeptical side tells me that maybe Frank should have run for lieutenant governor, but I still think he's the best overall candidate.

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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2017, 12:47:46 PM »
Interesting article in Politico on the Northam v. Perriello contest.

How Donald Trump Blew Up the Virginia Governor’s Race
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/tom-perriello-ralph-northam-virginia-governors-race-donald-trump-215025

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Northam, 57, has locked up the endorsement of nearly every politician who matters in Virginia, starting with McAuliffe, who sports an approval rating above 50 percent and in the 80s among Democrats. Both of Virginia’s Democratic senators, Mark Warner and former vice presidential nominee Tim Kaine, have backed Northam. As has every Democrat in the state legislature and every Democratic congressman save Connolly, who is remaining neutral.

In a normal election year, that would add up to a free pass to the general election in November. But this isn’t a normal year. The Virginia governor’s race, which by a quirk of the election calendar is the first big contest after the presidential vote, has historically been seen as a referendum on the new occupant of the White House. And that occupant is Donald Trump, which explains the presence at Connolly’s party of another candidate, Representative Tom Perriello.

...Perriello’s attacks, combined with a bank of goodwill with the former Obama administration, turned the one-term legislator into the darling of the D.C. establishment and earned him profiles in the Huffington Post, Yahoo!, and FiveThirtyEight. He has received the endorsement of seemingly the entire Obama-era White House staff, including Dan Pfeiffer, Neera Tanden, David Plouffe and John Podesta, who says Perriello is offering a “blueprint” for the future of the party. Last week, he got the backing of the father of the populist progressive moment in Democratic politics: Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2017, 02:09:08 PM »
Thats true! By doing that he got Bernie Saunders to jump in too, apart of his "revolution". Brian of Bearing Drift has a real good writeup on the race and Sen. Frank Wagner. And his "no-nonsense, firm grasp of the facts'. Read and offer your thought, everyone. The Republican debate/forum was last week at Liberty University.

https://bearingdrift.com/2017/04/17/quiet-competence-frank-wagner/

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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2017, 02:49:59 PM »
Virginia would greatly benefit from a Northam-Wagner election. Each of these guys are somewhat moderate, and have a record of working with both sides. Neither of these guy are of divisive style that Trumps is as an executive, and they both have a legislative history rooted here in Virginia.

Gillespie and Stewart, however, have waged a full out battle on who can be the most divisive in their primary campaigns.
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2017, 08:15:13 AM »
More material against Ed Gillespie's campaign finances, flashbacks to Enron. Another reason this man, a corrupt D.C. insider, "Enron Ed" should NOT win my party's nomination!

http://www.dailypress.com/news/politics/shad-plank-blog/dp-in-gillespie-s-finances-ties-back-to-enron-20170418-post.html


Please read and offer your thoughts and opinions.

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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2017, 06:00:25 PM »
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Virginia would greatly benefit from a Northam-Wagner election. Each of these guys are somewhat moderate, and have a record of working with both sides. Neither of these guy are of divisive style that Trumps is as an executive, and they both have a legislative history rooted here in Virginia.

Gillespie and Stewart, however, have waged a full out battle on who can be the most divisive in their primary campaigns.


or they could just vote for the real moderate - cliff hyra ;)