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Re: "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated.”
« Reply #135 on: October 26, 2017, 01:43:28 PM »
If Republicans are smart, they are teeing up Obamacare to fail and then be replaced by the GOP prior to 2020.  They have to get immigration, tax reform and infrastructure bills passes first; then tackle healthcare.  I can see Dems stalling the death of Obamacare until 2020 and use it as a campaign platform.  Either way, it will be used as a bargaining chip by both sides at the expense of the peoples welfare.

The death of the ACA isnt being stalled and the implementation of the Trumpcare isn't being held up by Democrats....its beings STOPPED by Republicans! Everytime a new healthcare bill or idea to fix hits the floor its voted down by Republicans. Remember....the Republicans have control of the House AND the Senate!
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Re: "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated.”
« Reply #136 on: November 09, 2017, 07:14:22 PM »
Despite Trump's attempted sabotage, enrollment in the ACA during the first week is over 600,000. That is a robust number that belies the claim by Republicans that it is failing. Because the enrollment period has been cut short and registration on the weekends is limited, predictions about the final number are not possible. Current numbers suggest, however, that enrollment could actually be higher this year than last.

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Separately, acting counter to Trump’s efforts to unravel “Obamacare,” millions of consumers eligible for income-based financial assistance will have access to basic “bronze” plans for no monthly premium. Some experts that quirk this year could increase enrollment.

The Kaiser foundation estimates 4.5 million uninsured people are eligible for subsidies that would allow them to get a free bronze plan for 2018.

Despite Trump’s scorn, early ‘Obamacare’ sign-ups top 600k
https://www.apnews.com/79dbdbf3392b4af4b71a42d971e7aeb6
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Re: "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated.”
« Reply #137 on: November 10, 2017, 11:01:10 AM »
Interestingly, the top issue in the Virginia election was health care, and we see how that went. If that holds true in 2018, the Republican efforts to destroy health insurance for millions of Americans could be a real problem for the party. I have never believed that Dems could overcome Republican's 2010 gerrymandering of the House, but, and this is a big but, the anger of voters over the health care issue could change that calculation.


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Fox News Voter Analysis     Virginia

Most Important Issue Facing The State

Health Care                             28%

Economy                                  26%

Education                                14%

Taxes                                       9%

Gun Policy                              8%

Immigration                            7%

Confederate Monuments        4%

Energy Policy                          3%

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/08/northam-wins-virginia-fox-news-voter-analysis-summary.html
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Re: "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated.”
« Reply #138 on: November 11, 2017, 01:08:48 PM »
Obamacare enrollment is surging at the beginning of the registration period. The info below cites several reasons. The irony is that two of the most important ones are the result of Trump administration actions. On the one hand, Trump is openly trying to sabotage the program, but, on the other, incompetent planning is actually pushing enrollments. As someone once said we may be saved because Trump's malevolence is tempered by his incompetence.

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1. More Americans can get more generous subsidies this year.

This is a phenomenon stemming from Trump’s decision to cut off extra payments to insurers for cost-sharing reductions they must offer.

To make up for losing the payments, many insurers hiked prices for their mid-grade “silver plans.” And because premium subsidies are based on silver plan prices, the subsidies are going up too, making bronze and gold plans even cheaper for many low-income people.

“I really believe the availability of these very low-cost plans could be a game changer,” said Josh Peck, who served as Healthcare.gov’s chief marketing officer under Obama and now heads up the group Get America Covered.

Enrollees eligible for subsidies will get $555 on average to offset the cost of their plans, up 45 percent from this year’s $382 average tax credit, according to the Department of Health and Human Services.


2. People with a Healthcare.gov account are still getting reminder emails.

I know this because I created an account several years ago. I’ve received at least four reminder emails in the last week, telling me I should visit the website to search for a plan. So have others

3. Maybe brokers are kicking butt.

Before the Obama administration instituted more restrictions on the role of private brokers, they’d helped enroll an estimated 40 to 50 percent of marketplace customers. In California, brokers accounted for 43 percent of new enrollments on the state’s Covered California exchange during the second year of enrollment.

The Trump administration reversed the crackdown in a rule last spring, allowing brokers to once again enroll people in marketplace plans through their own websites. This could lead to brokers filling a hole left by the administration’s refusal to promote the law.

4. Advertising drives enrollment near the end of signup season, not the beginning of it.

If the reduced advertising dollars do have a dampening effect on enrollment, that effect won’t be apparent until near the end of the signup season

The Health 202: Four possible explanations for the shocking Obamacare enrollment figures
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/the-health-202/2017/11/10/the-health-202-four-possible-explanations-for-the-shocking-obamacare-enrollment-figures/5a04720530fb045a2e002ecb/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.27a3fa07a63b
« Last Edit: November 11, 2017, 01:31:31 PM by Solon »
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Re: "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated.”
« Reply #139 on: November 14, 2017, 04:09:39 PM »
The health of the American people just took a nosedive. How can that be, you ask?

A committee of medical experts looked at more than 1000 studies of blood pressure plus a major 2015 report by the federal government and determined that a reading above 130/80 constituted a health threat. The previous standard was 140/90. Some of you may not be concerned about this, but let me tell you. My reading was below the 130/80 when I had my first heart attack, so pay attention.

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Under the guidelines, formulated by the American Heart Association and the American College of Cardiology, the number of men under age 45 with a diagnosis of high blood pressure will triple, and the prevalence among women under age 45 will double.

This is ironic when another part of the federal government has made and continues to make a concerted effort to take health insurance from millions of Americans. It was reported today that Trump wants to add an item to the tax cut for the rich legislation. He is proposing to end the ACA mandate that everyone be required to have health insurance or pay a fine. Interestingly, the mandate was the cornerstone of the right wing Heritage Foundation health insurance scheme that eventually became Romneycare, then Obamacare.

So, on the one hand you have a heightened health risk identified for the pre-45 crowd at the same time millions may face the loss of health insurance. The people facing that immediate threat, assuming the tax cut for the rich passes and the mandate is added, are those who depend on the state markets for their insurance purchases from private companies. Those who earn too much money to receive a government assist, will find the markets destabilized by this action and the price of insurance skyrocket--if policies are even offered. One of our own contributors from this pool of customers talked about the cost increases his wife faced in the past. That is nothing compared to what she will face in the future if Trump's plan becomes law.

Republicans have expressed a concern that the election a week ago might result in Virginia expanding Medicaid under the ACA regulations. I cannot fathom why it is considered fiscally prudent to sanction the subpar work and lost productivity that comes from sick people showing up to spread their illness because they can't afford health care. I am willing to bet that many from the hundreds of thousands of Virginians who would qualify for this suffer from high blood pressure under the new guidelines and have no clue. It's not called the silent killer for nothing.

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Senate Republicans agreed this afternoon to include repeal of the ACA mandate in their tax cut for the rich bill. Yay! The bipartisan efforts to stabilize state health insurance markets was just destroyed in a matter of minutes. Great job you bozos. This is one serious injustice that working people who cannot afford health insurance pay taxes that provide the best health care in the world to a Congress that denies a minimum of care to them.

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The Congressional Budget Office said axing the mandate would result in 13 million more Americans without insurance over the next 10 years, but would save $338 billion—money that could be used to reduce the tax bill’s overall impact on the deficit.
Top GOP Senator: Tax Bill Will Scrap Obamacare Individual Mandate
https://www.thedailybeast.com/top-gop-senator-tax-bill-will-scrap-obamacare-individual-mandate

So a tax cut for the rich that will actually increase taxes on millions of low, middle, and upper middle federal income taxpayers, and STILL adds over a trillion dollars to the national debt, requires that we take health insurance away from 13 million poor Americans. Wow! Is this a great democracy or what?
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Re: "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated.”
« Reply #140 on: November 15, 2017, 12:32:38 PM »
The mandate to buy health insurance was not initially part of either Romneycare or Obamacare proposals. In the end, both programs included it as a vital element that would make possible protection for people with preexisting conditions. Supposedly healthy, mostly young, people would not buy insurance unless compelled to do so. That made the mandate unpopular and Republicans think they can take advantage of that in their tax cut for the rich proposal.

The original calculation by the budget office, however, that 13 million people would lose health insurance and $338 billion would be saved from government expenditures, however, is being challenged by conservative health care analysts and the Budget Office is taking another look. Their goal is to minimize the importance of the mandate.

It is clear that eliminating the mandate will drive up premiums and deductibles for people who purchase policies with government assistance. Those costs could be sufficient to drive people from health insurance and save the government the subsidies paid to help them. However, much of the $338 billion in savings came from the reduced number of people on Medicaid if the mandate were eliminated. It seems that a significant number of people who gained Medicaid services would not know that they qualify if there were no mandate and the government would not be out the expenditures to subsidize their care. Now, if you WANT people to have health insurance and expanding coverage is your purpose, then the mandate makes sense. If, on the other hand, you DO NOT want people to have health insurance at government expense, you are happy to end the mandate.

Repealing the mandate, however, could backfire on Republicans. If the Republican tax cut for the rich scheme becomes law and the mandate is eliminated, it is entirely possible that the returns to the US Treasury will be much less than the anticipated $338 billion, now that Medicaid users are hip to their eligibility. That could put a huge dent in the Republican budget goals.

Ah, the eternal curse of unintended consequences.

Obamacare’s Insurance Mandate Is Unpopular. So Why Not Just Get Rid of It?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/14/upshot/obamacares-insurance-mandate-is-unpopular-so-why-not-just-get-rid-of-it.html?em_pos=small&emc=edit_up_20171115&nl=upshot&nl_art=2&nlid=515863&ref=headline&te=1&_r=0
On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and a complete narcissistic moron.
...H. L. Mencken